Lake George Park Commission

Meeting #322

25 May 2004

Bolton Town Center

Bolton Landing, NY

PRESIDING: Bruce E. Young, Chair

      Joan A. Robertson
      Roger H. Phinney
      Margaret M. Stewart
      John C. McDonald, Jr.
      Thomas K. Conerty
      (Erin M. Crotty, DEC Commissioner)
       Thomas W. Hall, representing

      John Pettica

COMMISSION COUNSEL:  Martin D. Auffredou

COMMISSION STAFF PRESENT: Michael P. White, Executive Director
      Kathleen Ledingham, Secretary II
      Lt. Joseph H. Schneider, Director Law Enforcement
      Keith G. Fish, Operations Director
      Roger Smith, Conservation Operations Supervisor 1
      Molly Gallagher, Environmental Analyst I
      Peggy Sturtevant, Principal Account Clerk
      J. Thomas Wardell, Senior Sanitary Engineer

GUEST:     Dave Wick, District Manager      Warren County Soil & Water Conservation District


                                                            Julie Martin                       Chris Navitsky           Mary Alice Leary
                                                            Ron Montesi                        Tom Morhouse             Stewart Mitchell
                                   John Caffry                        Ken Panker

Item #1 - Introductions, Roll Call, Minutes of Meeting

The 322nd  meeting of the Lake George Park Commission was called to order by
Chairman Young at 10:15 a.m. and the roll was taken.

Mr. Young said that the meeting minutes of Commission meeting #321 were circulated
in advance to Commission members for their review.  He asked if there were any
corrections or additions.

Upon the motion of John McDonald, seconded by Roger Phinney, all Commission
members present voted affirmatively to approve the minutes of Meeting #321 as

Item #2 -  Project Review Committee Report:   Margaret M. Stewart

Maggie Stewart said that there were no projects for review  this month.

Project Review Report

Maggie Stewart read and moved to approve Resolution 2004-33 which directs that the
Project Review Report be incorporated in full in the minutes of the full Commission
meeting.  The motion was seconded by Joan Robertson and all members present voted

Item #3 - Fiscal Actions Report: Peggy Sturtevant

Peggy Sturtevant said that the report on fiscal affairs for the month of April 2004 has
not yet been completed.  She said that she is awaiting paperwork from the Office of the
State Comptroller and that the report will probably be distributed by the end of this

Item #4 - Law Enforcement Committee Report:

Tom Conerty said that the Law Enforcement Committee met earlier this date.  He called
upon Lt. Schneider to give his report.

Lt. Schneider said that the Marine Patrol’s new vessel that was recently purchased by
the Commission has arrived.  He said that the vessel is expected to be in the lake in a
couple of weeks.  He said that issues with the radio repeater were discussed during the
meeting and that he is hopeful they will be ironed out.  He said that a new repeater will
probably be up by the summer season and that in the meantime there will be a
temporary replacement.

Lt. Schneider said that the Commission sponsored Young Boater training courses were
discussed.  He said that three upcoming courses are scheduled for June, July and
August and advised the public to contact the Commission office for additional
information and registration.

Lt. Schneider said that there was an enforcement discussion during the executive
session portion of the meeting and that no votes were taken.

Tom Conerty read and moved to approve Resolution 2004-27 which accepts the report
of the Law Enforcement Committee.  The motion was seconded by Tony Reale and all
Commission members present voted affirmatively.

Item #5 - Presentation on Stormwater Management Improvements to Private
Property along route 9:   Dave Wick, Warren County Soil & Water
Conservation District

Michael White said that he invited Mr. Dave Wick, District Manager of Warren County
Soil & Water Conservation District, to today’s meeting for a presentation on stormwater
management improvements to private property along Route 9.  “It has been a long-
standing objective of the Watershed Conference to do something about stormwater
problems around the southern end of the lake, particularly in the West Brook
watershed,” he said.

Mr. White said that Mr. Wick worked for years on a project to convert an area of
Battlefield Park to a wetland for the rerouting of stormwater.  He said that the project
was ultimately terminated due to land restraints.  He said that Mr. Wick acquired some
grant money through his group and contacted several private property owners along the
Route 9 corridor.  He said that Mr. Wick negotiated with the property owners for
stormwater improvements on their properties.

Mr. Dave Wick distributed the West Brook Stormwater Mitigation Project Final Report
to Commission members.  He said that one of the main purposes of Warren County
Soil & Water is to address existing water quality issues and to do something about
them.  He said that back in 1983 or so, a National Urban Runoff Program (NURF)
report showed that the largest threat to Lake George is coming from urban runoff.
“Since that time we have been much more focused on stormwater runoff trying to
incorporate some activities to address that with the 1989 legislation and water acts,” he
said.  He said that a lot more dollars were being put into stormwater management.  He
said that one of the big issues discovered in the 1990's was that the southern basin of
Lake George was deteriorating at a much more rapid rate than the northern basin of the
Mr. Wick presented a slide presentation and said that one of the largest areas in the
southern basin that is developed is the Route 9 (West Brook) corridor.  “What we are
trying to do is address the existing development.  The Park Commission obviously has
the regulations in the basin to address the impacts on new development and where
they need to fall in terms of erosion sediment and water management criteria,” he said.
He said that nobody really has any regulations over existing development.  “We’re
going to have to be pro-active and go out there and actually take a look at what the
problems are and address those to correct them,” he said.  He explained that retrofitting
is taking an existing stormwater infrastructure and changing it to add a water quality
improvement component such as infiltration systems, filter systems, retention systems,

Mr. Wick said that the goals of the District are long-term and are relatively simple.
“What we want to do is address all of the major stormwater outfalls in the Lake George
basin and try to retrofit those in some way so at a minimum to catch the sediment that’s
flowing down to the lake and adding to the deltas,” he said.  He said that the next step
in the process would be to take the water that is running into the lake and try to mitigate
it and get it dispersed back into the ground where it would have been before there was
development on the site.

Mr. Wick’s slide presentation also included the following points:

     quality of the receiving waterbody.           The District obtained a $219,000 DEC matching grant to address stormwater runoff from the massive Route 9 corridor
     which outlets into West Brook just above Lake George.           A stormwater assessment and prioritization plan was created for this highly developed corridor.  Took advantage of
     sand soils in county.

          All large developed properties and town roads were to be addressed through the DEC grant.

          The District conducted the planning, survey and design work for all these projects under direction of Don Lake, PE.

          Goal was to capture and infiltrate Water Quality Volume (i.e. 90% rule) on each property, which equates to
     approximately 1.0" of rainfall in Warren County.

          System sizing criteria based solely on volume, with infiltration during storms as a bonus.

          Four sites were retrofitted with infiltration systems, including infiltration chambers, slotted trench drains, and dry wells.
          Grant cost: $38,000.           Created two “stormwater medians” to capture and infiltrate sheetflow runoff, while improving aesthetics of the parking
     lot.  Grant cost: $35,000.           Three locations retrofitted to capture and infiltrate all stormwater runoff from property.   Grant cost: $36,000.           Slotted trench drain across entire front of property to catch stormwater and outlet it into large drywell system.  Mobile
     paid half of project cost.  Grant cost: $10,000.           Single site, slotted trench drain, dry well system.  Grant cost $5,800.           Large asphalt parking lot, most of which drains to one point.  Simply installed a large dry well system at that location.
 Grant cost $2,700.           The Town of Lake George Highway Department installed dry well infiltration systems at three locations on Birch
     Avenue to capture and infiltrate the water quality volume from this road.  Their donated time was used as local match.
 Grant cost $7,000.
            400 foot long median to be constructed, retains and infiltrates all stormwater from a 1" rainfall event.

          Four dry well drop inlets, outletting into low profile infiltration chambers.

          Greatly improves aesthetics for the site, which is located right at the southern tip  of Lake George.

          The Village of Lake George has grants for $116,000 to retrofit the Route 9 corridor from the Fort William Henry down to
     West Brook, on West Brook Road (County Route 69).

          Designs are being finalized now.  Swirl separator, dry wells, and Stormtech® infiltration chambers to be used.

          Construction this coming Fall (2004).

          By cleaning out old water supply reservoirs located on streams in the Lake George basin, we have been able to
     minimize the amount of sand and silt that has been building up the deltas in Lake George.

Item #6 - Lake George Deltas Sediment Management Project: Final Generic
                Environmental Impact Statement Findings: Martin D. Auffredou

Martin Auffredou referred to his May 20,2004 memorandum to Commission members.
He said that the Commission has served as Lead Agency under SEQRA for the Lake
George Association’s Lake George Delta Sediment Management/Shoreline Restoration
Project.   He said that the Final Generic Environmental Impact Statement was approved
by the Commission at the last Commission meeting.  He said that it is his understanding
that notice was filed and published as required by SEQRA.  He said that the next step is
for the Commission to take a look at the Findings Statement.  He said that the Findings
Statement was prepared by the LGA.  He said that Mr. White and he reviewed the
document and provided some minor comments which the LGA incorporated.  “We think
that it is a very comprehensive and thorough document and one that represents all of
the findings that the Commission must make under SEQRA,” he said.

Mr. Auffredou gave a brief background of the project.  He said that seven existing brook
deltas have been identified by the LGA for remediation and/or restoration.  He said that
these include: East Brook, West Brook, English Brook, Finkle Brook, Indian Brook,
Hague Brook and Foster Brook.  He said that the next step for the Commission is to
approve the Findings Statement.

Mr. Auffredou said that phase two of the project would be to come up with the actual
plans for the remediation of the various sites and that phase three would be the actual
implementation.  “This action today will set the stage for phases two and three for the
delta remediation project and it will also bring to a close your goal as the SEQRA lead
agency and the completion of the SEQRA review.  There will likely be additional
SEQRA review as the project continues, but I don’t envision the Commission having too
much to say about that as phases two and three go along,” he said.

Mr. Auffredou recommended that Commission members approve the Findings
Statement today.

Tom Conerty read and moved to approve Resolution 2004-34 which was seconded by
Tony Reale:

          WHEREAS   the Lake George Park Commission is established by Article 43 of the Environmental Conservation Law (ECL)
          to provide a means for the people who reside or visit within the Lake George Park to preserve, protect and
          enhance the unique natural and scenic resources of the lake, and

          WHEREAS   on May 23, 2000 the Commission was designated lead agency pursuant to the State Environmental Quality
          Review Act for the Lake George Deltas Sediment Management Restoration Project, and

          WHEREAS   the notice of the Commission’s designation as lead agency and a positive declaration was published in the
          Environmental Notice Bulletin on July 5, 2000, and

          WHEREAS   the Commission accepted the Draft Generic Environmental Impact Statement on September 4, 2002, and

          WHEREAS   the Commission has accepted the Final Generic Environmental Impact Statement (FGEIS) for the Lake
          George Deltas Sediment Management/Shoreline Restoration Project on April 20, 2004, and

          WHEREAS   notice of acceptance of the FGEIS was published in the Environmental Notice Bulletin on May 5, 2004 and
          distributed in accordance with 6 NYCRR 617, and

          WHEREAS   the Commission has reviewed a draft Statement of Findings for the FGEIS.

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the Lake George Park Commission adopts the attached Statement of Findings for
the Lake George Deltas Sediment Management/Shoreline Restoration Project, and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Chair, Counsel and Executive Director are authorized to take those steps necessary to
fulfill the Commission’s role as lead agency in this matter.

The motion being on the floor, Commission members presented voted as follows:

AYES: Conerty, Reale, Young, Hall, Stewart, Robertson, McDonald, Phinney
NAYS: None

Item #7 - Water Quality Programs Report: J. Thomas Wardell

Mr. Wardell presented an update on Water Quality programs.  He said that back in April
of this year Molly Gallagher and himself did a couple of presentations for the Hague
Zoning Workshop on the Commission’s regulations.  He said that he also did a module
on a Sediment and Erosion Control Workshop for Warren County on the Lake George
Park requirements.  He said that there was a lot of initial interest in this and that he is
hopeful to do the same thing in the fall.  He said that this presentation is directed at
actual contractors.  “Frankly, that’s some of our biggest problems – problems with
projects getting out of control or underway without a permit,” he said.

Mr. Wardell said that a stormwater committee is being organized in the Town of
Putnam.  He said that a stormwater management plan was never completed in the
Towns of Putnam and Dresden.  “Since Putnam is interested, it’s time to take
advantage of their coordination and get some community members up there to work on
a project to develop a plan for Putnam,” he said.  He said that it may be possible to use
the same community members for nearby Dresden.

Mr. Wardell said that there are a couple of beaver dams in Washington County which
either wash out or are torn out from time to time causing some flooding.  He said that
once the flooding begins, the erosion picks up.  He said that there are some devices for
dams that prevent some of the catastrophic problems from occurring.

Mr. Wardell said that the recent rainfall has heightened the erosion control inspections.
He reported that he has made plans to meet with the field people from the Town of
Queensbury on a couple of larger projects in the Town.

Mr. Wardell said that there have been some calls concerning possible zebra mussels
on the Shoreline’s new boat the Adirondac..  He reported that zebra mussels are not
active this time of year due to the colder water temperature.

Lake Level
Mr. Wardell said that the amount of rainfall measured on Monday was 3", 1.5" today
and that the lake level is currently at 4.25 .  He said that the rain shot the lake up about

Item #8 - Public Comments

          Julie Martin, representing the Lake George Association, addressed Commission
     members.  She commended the Warren County Soil and Water District for the
     work they have done along Route 9.   “The LGA looks forward to cleaning out
     those reservoirs and contributing to the finances,” she said.

          Ms. Martin thanked the Commission, particularly Michael White and Martin
     Auffredou for their assistance in acting as Lead Agency on the Delta Project.
     “It’s great to have the SEQRA process over after four years of hard work,” she

          Ms. Martin said that the LGA is pursuing the testing of the sediment in each of
     the deltas with the Lake George Watershed Conference.

Tom Morehouse, representing the Black Point Road Sewer District Association in the
Town of Ticonderoga, addressed Commission members.  He said that this month the
State approved the formation of the sewer district on Black Point Road which includes
Washington and Essex Counties.  He thanked the Commission for their support of this

Item #9 - Adjournment

There being no further business, on the motion of Tom Conerty, seconded by
John McDonald, all present voting affirmatively, the Commission adjourned at
10:55 a.m.

      Respectfully submitted,

      Kathleen Ledingham
      Commission Secretary

                    Secretary’s Note:   The next Commission meeting is scheduled for Tuesday,
                    June 29th, 2004, 10:00 a.m. at the North Queensbury Fire
                    House, Route 9L, Cleverdale, NY (directly across from the
                    Cleverdale Store).